tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9073298.post110080176714762225..comments2023-10-16T08:20:47.101-05:00Comments on The Iconic Midwest: Common Sense In Iowa: Who Knew?Rich Hortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15561931187909269006noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9073298.post-1100903083928049512004-11-19T16:24:00.000-06:002004-11-19T16:24:00.000-06:00Yeah, my Stanley Cup trash talk would mean even mo...Yeah, my Stanley Cup trash talk would mean even more were it not for the pesky fact that I'd sell my own grandmother to win the stupid thing.Rich Hortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15561931187909269006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9073298.post-1100898105217200062004-11-19T15:01:00.000-06:002004-11-19T15:01:00.000-06:00Actually, that was not my point at all. My commen...Actually, that was not my point at all. My comment had nothing to do at all with the content of the ad hominem attacks, but the ad hominem attack as a strategy in itself. I in no way suggested that Dems needed to make more effective attacks on religious groups. What we seem to have here is a failure to communicate.<br /><br />BTW, you may taunt me with the Stanley Cup all you want, but it will only sting if I actually harbored any belief that my team had a slush ball's chance in Hades of getting near that shiny grail this season. And last time I checked my harbor, no such belief was docked there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9073298.post-1100895561439626802004-11-19T14:19:00.000-06:002004-11-19T14:19:00.000-06:00If your point is that the Democrats need to expres...If your point is that the Democrats need to express a more articulate argument against evangelical Christians and other religious people, I couldn't disagree more. The religious people are not going anywhere. They are still gonna vote. Democrats don't need to become "well spoken bigots" they need to fight the charge that they are anti-Christian bigots at all. It might strike you as incredulous that it has come to that, but it has.Rich Hortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15561931187909269006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9073298.post-1100889492316031122004-11-19T12:38:00.000-06:002004-11-19T12:38:00.000-06:00Unfortunately, I don't have time to give this post...Unfortunately, I don't have time to give this post the response it deserves (as I'm already stealing time from work to do this much). But this story you quote from is part of a series of stories I've been reading in other places, making that argument that democrats need to stop name calling. I mostly find it galling to hear such an argument from conservatives, who are masters of the ad hominem argument, and have used loudly, successfully, and repeatedly. What these articles aren't being up front with is that they do not have objections to ad hominem attacks. Quite the contrary. You can tell that by the way they completely ignore this same tendency on the Right. <br /><br />It's not that the Democrats need to stop name-calling, these articles ultimately lead me to conclude. It's just that they need to become better at it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com